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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 31 Dec 98       Volume 16 : Issue 229

Today's Topics:

      2 questions
      [A]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)?
      [non-Answer] At Ease 2.0 and game CD's
      A Very Strange Thing
      Any LaserWriter  Select 310 + Mac OS 8.5 solutions?
      ATTN APPLE ENGINEERS: Appletalk defaulting to printer port
      cd kopieren
      Finder Problems?
      info mac download
      Info-Mac Digest V16 #228
      One scanner driver
      Possible Outlook Problem for Macintoshes
      Sluggish Netscape 4.5 and Mac OS 8.5.1
      Virex

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:32:54 -0400
From: hope@eat.spam (Joni Hope)
Subject: 2 questions

>From  Info-Mac Digest V16 #219:

> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:09:23 +0600
> From: Noah Sager <noahsager@usa.net>
> Subject: 2 questions
>
> I have two quick questions:
>
> 1) Does anyone know how much it would cost to replace the
> trackball unit in my PB 180? Both buttons have failed and
> it skips realy bad. I don't realy want to buy an external mouse.

Try http://www.powerbookguy.com/ ; I've been very happy.  It says there
the 1xx trackball assembly is $29.

> 2)Does anyone run HyperCard 2.3.5 on a PB 180 or '030 machine?
> If so, does it run smoothly?

I've run everything from HyperCard 2.3 up to 2.4.1 (including a long stay
at 2.3.5) on a PowerBook 170 ('030, older than the 180) with no
complaints.  In fact, I've used it for solutions when the solution
platform was network access to a Mac SE -- and access times were
acceptable (barely)!

You should be fine!

- Joni
hope at unc dot edu

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:42:53 -0700
From: "IQTech-P.Reilly" <preilly@isoquantic.com>
Subject: [A]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)?

> From: shorton <shorton@lr.net>
> Subject: [Q]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)?
>
> I did a clean install of MacOS 8.5 and then ran 8.5.1 updater. All is
> well except that OT/PPP control panel is nowhere to be found!

Apple merged ARA and PPP capabilities. The new name for the control panel
is Remote Access.

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:33:16 -0600
From: Kevin Jones <kevjones@cei.net>
Subject: [non-Answer] At Ease 2.0 and game CD's

Kevin Greenspan, D.C." <kgreenspan@earthlink.net> wrote:

I have been having a problem on my IIci (I know it's ancient, don't rub
it in.) When in ATEase and a game is selected requiring the external 24x
CD-ROM to change the discs. It crashes or just won't let you eject the
current CD and change.

Kevin Jones replies:

The only thing worse than AtEase on a computer is my 3 and 4 year-old boys.
I had assorted ritual voodoo spells I chanted whenever I changed CDs or
users, and sometimes they even worked (AtEase seemed to have the most
trouble switching between the finder users and the finder destroyers, and
if I ejected all CDs and opened and closed the empty CD drive and sang an
Italian aria and was nice to my wife, then it usually wouldn't crash) .  I
had decided, based on refusing to try any more to really fix it, that there
was exentsion problem between AtEase and my CD management utils (FWB). Then
I networked the boys' Performa 476 with my UMAX S900, and the old crashes
stopped--but now, I cannot reboot with both AtEase Startup and networking
active.  No problem: I just told the 4-year-old the password to my AtEase
user account, and whenver he wants to shut down he must turn off Apple
Talk.  Of course, now the 3 year-old wants to know the password, but he's
only interested in hacking the Web kid-proofing utils.  He knows that if he
invokes enough restarts, Conflict Catcher will eventually kill of AtEase
for him...

(Applying the AtEase 2 updater did seem to help.  I got it from some CD or
other, so it's probably on Apple's FTP site... somewhere.)

Bon chance.
KJ

Kevin Jones       **  It was an absurd endeavor--and was crowned with
kevjones@cei.net  **  the success common to many absurd endeavors...
Little Rock, AR   **                                --Fernando Arrabal

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:31:39 -0400
From: hope@eat.spam (Joni Hope)
Subject: A Very Strange Thing

Hello all,

I encountered some very strange Mac behavior the day after Christmas, and
I was wondering if anyone could explain what happened.  Sorry for the long
story.

A friend came over with the family Performa 6214CD (that's a 75Mhz 603)
with Apple MS15 monitor running the stock System 7.5.1 that shipped on
it.  His daughters told him he was a bad dad if he couldn't get the Apple
Color StyleWriter 1500 printer to work with the computer, and despite some
really impressive efforts, he couldn't get the printer to work.  (He was
very upset about being called a bad dad.  Despite knowing nothing, he
tried all the right things.)  I tried the install disks, and it failed at
the end.  I read the Troubleshooting file and followed the two tips
supplied: restarting with extensions off, and restarting with no fonts (in
case of corrupt fonts; I just dragged the Fonts folder out).  In both
cases, the install failed late.  In my experience, and everyone's story
seems to vary, I have the best luck with System 7.5.3 of all the 7.5.x
flavors.  In fact, I even had a spare CD of Update 2.0 that I gave to him,
after updating his system.  After the update, the printer software
installed much faster than the other times failed.  He went home, now a
good dad.

That's not the strange part.  Here's what I noticed that was unusual. 
When I started, About This Macintosh showed 16 Meg of physical RAM with
the default (Memory control panel) 32 Meg virtual.  The System was taking
about 2.4 Meg, when I would expect any version of 7.5 with that many
extensions to take about 5 Meg.  Many reboots, and the same numbers each
time except I ran the virtual down to 17 Meg.  Here's the kicker, the
strange thing: *after* I installed Update 2.0, I wanted to see About This
Macintosh say "System 7.5.3 Update 2.0", which it did.  It also said 8 Meg
physical, 9 Meg virtual, and System taking 5 Meg.  Whoa!  What's going on
with the factor of two, and why did it go bad so fast?  Now he has HALF
the RAM, with the System taking TWICE as much as before.  VERY WEIRD. 
According to Apple Specs 8/98, this model would have shipped with 8 Meg of
physical.  I think I believe the numbers after and not before, but how did
the numbers get off before?  Is it worth installing 7.5.3 long enough to
get the printer drivers for the Color Stylewriter 1500 installed, and then
go back to the original 7.5.1?  Performas have that nice Launcher button
if you boot from that CD to "Restore System Software" to the stock
config.  However, since it ran so much faster after the update, I bet it
was running virtual memory off the hard drive which will slow a Mac down
horribly.

OK, I admit, I did poke around in his System Folder, but I don't think
that's it.  I went through only the Extensions and Control Panels folders,
and I only moved items I know are safe to move because I've done it
hundreds of times fixing hundreds of Macs (I used to work at a Help Desk,
and I'm still called in to troubleshoot the really sticky Mac problems on
campus, so I have seen a large volume of Macs needing my help).  Anything
he couldn't use, like the control panels for PowerBooks only, I deleted. 
(He's got all his master media.)  Anything he wasn't using, I moved to the
"xx (Disabled)" folder, like the EtherTalk extension; this Performa may
never be on an Ethernet network in its life at this rate.  I didn't see a
RAMDoubler, and I didn't see a RAMHalver.  He hasn't installed anything on
this Performa (nor have his girls).  It's just got the stock config with
the stock software with which it shipped.

I didn't mention that the memory looked strange to me.  He'd already had a
rough day trying to fix the printer to work for his girls, and I wasn't
going to say anything negative once he was happy again.  Before I updated,
I ran Disk First Aid.  Since it said minor repairs were needed, I booted
from the Performa CD and allowed that DFA to repair the hard drive. 
TechTool (1.1.7, the "light" version) gave it a clean bill of health, and
I've seen it pick up a corrupted System.  His birthday is May, so I think
I might buy him some memory then, and install it.  Does anybody know if
the standard 8 Meg is soldered to the mb so the two slots are free, or if
I will be pulling RAM to add larger capacity RAM?

Thanks!
hope at unc dot edu

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:51:53 -0500
From: Roy Pardi <rpardi@tiac.net>
Subject: Any LaserWriter  Select 310 + Mac OS 8.5 solutions?

hello-

I recently upgraded to Mac OS 8.5. All was (fairly) well until I tried to
print to my LaserWriter Select 310 printer.  Doesn't work. A check of Apple
Tech notes cites an incompatibility of Mac OS 8.5 and the Select 310
printer driver, and states that there are no plans to upgrade the driver.
Apple Tech Support was completely useless and uninformed, telling me
repeatedly to check that I had the latest driver even as I pointed them to
the tech note which states that this driver is incompatible.

This essentially orphans this printer. Although the printer is now four
years old, it is still quite serviceable and has perfomed well for my small
business needs. Since I hadn't planned to buy a new printer simply to run
8.5, I contacted Apple for a refund. I have been bounced through numerous
departments and have not yet received a response to my refund request.

There may be a valid technical reason why this printer is no longer
supported. If there is, I have not been able to find it. Certainly the age
of the printer can't be a factor since 8.5 still supports the ImageWriter
model, which hasn't been sold in at least as many years. It would have been
nice to have a listing of incompatibilities upfront before I wasted my time
installing (and now uninstalling) system software which I can not use.

Can anyone think of a solution beyond reinstalling MAC OS 8.1?

-Roy  Pardi  -  rpardi@tiac.net

New Bytes:  Behavior Writer Xtra for Director 6
http://www.tiac.net/users/rpardi/behaviorwriter/

         

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:37:53 -0600
From: John Burwell <jburwell@thefacts.com>
Subject: ATTN APPLE ENGINEERS: Appletalk defaulting to printer port

Appletalk should not default to the printer port. Instead, if there is a 
problem with the Ethernet or ARA, Appletalk should default to "Off."

Defaulting to the printer port both assumes and requires that nothing be 
connected to the printer port unless it is an Appletalk device. This 
includes Deskwriters, Stylewriters, digital cameras, and modems. These 
are all devices which behave quite erratically when Appletalk is turned 
on. As an administrator, this is the first thing I check when peripherals 
misbehave.

Granted, once the software is set up properly, there are no further 
problems. But this is a hassle for users who for whatever reason find 
themselves only intermittently connected to an ethernet network. As a 
college student, I drag my system to and from campus each semester and at 
major holidays, and when I'm home, it never fails that my Deskwriter 
spits out gibberish while my computer is unresponsive as it attempts to 
start up networking over the printer port.

While I can understand that it makes Localtalk networking as easy as 
plugging in the computer, it makes everything else require an additional 
step.

What needs to be done is this:

In the even that the previously selected interface is unavailable, 
present a dialog which notifies the user of this, as usual. But ask the 
user: should the printer port be used instead, or should Appletalk be 
disabled?

This solution would allow for the easy installation of Localtalk and 
eliminate the confusion which arises when the ethernet is not available, 
for whatever reason.

Off-topic? Perhaps. But I don't know how else to send this kind of 
feedback to Apple. So if anyone knows of an e-mail address that I could 
send this kind of thing to, please let me know!

Thanks

j

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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:41:12 +0100
From: Christian F Buser <cbuser@access.ch>
Subject: cd kopieren

Hello J.Molegraaf. At Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:55:34 +0100 you wrote:

> Ik kopieer nogal eens cd's.
> Maar nu heb ik een probleem.
> De cd die ik wou kopieren, wilde hij niet kopieren, hij is misschien wel
> beveiligd.
> Kunnen jullie mij hierbij helpen?
> M.B.V. software of iets anders, alles kan.

Although I don't really understand or even speak Dutch, I think I
know what your problem is.

- You want to duplicate an existing CD.
- You could do this before with other CD's without problems
- Now you can't duplicate a specific CD.

This may be that this particular CD is somehow copy protected
to prevent this action. I have seen such protection schemes on
Windows CDs, but it may also exist for Mac CDs. In this case,
it is not possible even to copy the contents of the whole CD
to a harddisk drive.

Hope this info helps.

Best wishes for the new year, Christian.
--
Christian F. Buser  -  phone (+41-56) 491 0877
Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at <http://www.mus.ch/members/cbuser>
"Wo Hunger herrscht, kann Friede nicht Bestand
haben"  - Willy Brandt

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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:37:09 +1100
From: Bill Stanford <stanford@labyrinth.net.au>
Subject: Finder Problems?


In Info-Mac Digest V16 #227, Charles Edward Farrugia
<c.farrugia@mailbox.gu.edu.au> wrote:

>Recently I've been getting the following message after doing a
>number of consecutive operations (e.g. pasting textures into Texture
>Installer; aligning windows; etc.). The message reads:
>
>"The command could not be completed, because there isn't enough memory
>available. Closing windows or quitting application programs can make more
>memory available"
>
>The problem is, there's heaps of memory (around 15Meg) so I don't know
>what's happening - especially as this message has not come up before!!
[snip]
>I gather that the Finder thinks that it has run out of memory but how can
>this be and
>what is causing it? More _importantly_ how do I fix it????

Charles, a friend of mine met this recently, so I've a boiler plate on this
one (sorry, it's rather long... but I hope, witty enough... :-)
--
Increasing Finder Memory

Once upon a time, long ago in the 1980's, in System 6.x.x the Finder had a
'Size' panel in its Get Info dialog, just like any other application. You
could turn up its memory allocation, or turn it down. (Up was better!)

Then - probably just before Sys 7.0.0 was due to take the street in '91 -
someone at Apple finally noticed that Finder 7.0.0 had bad habits.
Noticeably, if one used it to copy very large, or very many files, it would
finish the copy, then shrug its shoulders and murmur "well that's it for
today" - announced by a system alert. Its menus would then be inoperative
or strange, and it would crash any open apps. Only rebooting with the
finger would fix things...

The reason was plain to the Finder team. RAM at that time cost $200/M, and
the OS guys were trying to cram Sys 7 into the same system memory space as
System 6's 900K. But 7 seemed to want 3M, and one desperate day the 7
supervisor told the Finder guys to turn its memory down from the 0.69M it
needed, to 0.19M. Naturally now if you asked Finder to _do_ anything it
would refuse, being very angry indeed!

Then just before they shipped, one of the Finder guys said in horror, "What
if some user uses Get Info to turn Finder memory down _more_!!"

"We'll stop that" snarled the Finder Team Leader, and tearing Finder open
w/o anesthetic, he ripped out the Size code from the Get Info dialog...

And they never put it back. And under 7.x.x Finder would gracefully
malfunction in its paltry 199,000bytes. Especially on networks, even small
ones, when AppleTalk was up...
--
OS 8 was released in happier days for Finder. Now they've given it
933888bytes, 0.93M odd. But as you've found, it still goes strange if you
do major drag copy jobs etc.; and the reason for this is that memory is now
dynamic on the Mac, as it always should have been, and they've given the
Finder under OS 8 a _minimum_ memory of only 131072bytes, 0.13M.

Thus when the Finder does things like calling the part of the OS known as
the Disk Manager for the routine to copy files with, it drops its own
memory allocation to fit the new code into the same system space - at
least, I assume this is what happens, and it's an educated guess. There's
plenty of Finder memory space to shrink, with that much difference in its
size settings. Copy something big, like an installed application folder,
and Finder drops its own memory a lot, to give the copy routine RAM space.
But: Finder is not very good at reclaiming that memory it seems, and Finder
8 still shows, like the Finder of Sys 7, signs of collapse after such major
jobs...

The Fix:

make the Finder's minimum memory the same as its normal memory, thus
forcing Finder to use new system RAM for large jobs. (One takes the
safeguard of not doing large copies with many applications open, to ensure
there's plenty of unallocated RAM for Finder to grab...)

The Method:

1) Open the System Folder, hold down the <option> key with one hand, and
use the mouse to drag (a copy of) the Finder to the desktop.

2) Open ResEdit in System Utilities folder (you've got version 2.1.1 which
is still OK, ResEdit is still only at 2.1.3). Click on the jack-in-the-box
to get rid of the splash screen.

3) ResEdit puts up its Open dialog when it finishes booting: hit the
Desktop button, select Finder - the copy on the desktop, not the active one
in the system folder - and then hit the Open button.

4) ResEdit puts up a window for Finder, with all Finder's 'resources'
(program code items) in alphabetical order. Scroll down to the foot of
these and find the SIZE resources.

5) Double click the SIZE resources open from the Finder resource window. A
SIZE resources window opens, showing only one SIZE resource, of 10K, ID =
-1. Double click this resource open.

6) ResEdit now opens an edited window showing - not code - but settings
relating to Finder size, with radio buttons to hit. DON'T change any of
these; but scroll down to the bottom of SIZE resource -1, until you see the
Finder SIZE allocation, 933888, and minimum SIZE allocation, 131072.

7) Drag the mouse to select the SIZE allocation, 933888, and go Copy on
ResEdit's Edit menu. Select the min. SIZE allocation, 131072, and go Paste
on the Edit menu. The minimum SIZE is now 933888 (bytes) too, equal to the
SIZE allocation. (Alternately, you can delete the minimum size of 131072
and type in 933888.)

8) Close the SIZE resource -1 window, close the SIZE resource window, and
close the Finder window. As you hit the close box of the Finder window,
ResEdit asks, "Save Changes?" and you hit "Yes". Now quite ResEdit itself
(don't forget to do this...)

9) Your new copy of Finder is the one on the desktop. Drag the Finder in
the System Folder to the Trash, but don't try to empty the trash (since the
old Finder file is active).

10) Drag the Finder file you've edited on the desktop into the System
Folder. Reboot. Empty the trash. ---

You can keep a copy of the modified Finder on a Zip cart and copy it on to
all the computers on that OS version in question... ---

I hadn't done this with OS 8's Finder, though I had checked the SIZE
settings in ResEdit, just to see what was what. Then coincidently, last
night, after copying PM4 & PM 4.2 across from archives, the Finder put up a
red bordered unpleasant looking dialog I hadn't seen before and told me I
was out of memory, and to reboot. It wouldn't let me get back and save the
email in Eudora to you, so I lost half of that (silly me!). And of course
I'd had nothing but Eudora open, so I had 15M or so free RAM - it was the
Finder itself claiming out of memory, not the Mac.

Today, after turning up Finder's minimum memory in ResEdit, I can copy any
sized files I like, w/o problems... I think that minumum memory trick is
the answer, though if the problem comes back I'd turn the Finder memory
itself up, maybe to 1500000 (1.5M), and set min memory at the same figure.
That would really fix it! ---

Those 10 steps above aren't difficult if you have a printed copy by your
side as you do it - and over the years using System 7 the number of times
I've had people say or write "amazing, that's fixed things" after turning
up Finder memory convinces me that this step is worth taking if the Finder
behaves badly ....

---

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:33:48 -0500
From: "Norman R. Friedman" <norm@helix.nih.gov>
Subject: info mac download

What's with downloading from Info-mac? .hqx files used to open
automatically with "Stuffit",
now it does not open the file, but instead gives you a .sit file; this is
even after getting Aladdins new stuffit thing. Still cannot get the files
to open. Is Aladdin now going to go to a purchased "Stuffit"?
norm@helix.nih.gov

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:55:02 -0500 (EST)
From: igor@clark.net
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #228

On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Info-Mac wrote:

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 09:17:07 -0500
> From: shorton <shorton@lr.net>
> Subject: [Q]-Where is OT/PPP Contol Panel (OS 8.5.1)?
> 
> I did a clean install of MacOS 8.5 and then ran 8.5.1 updater. All is 
> well except that OT/PPP control panel is nowhere to be found! I'm using 
> FreePPP succesfully, but wanted to see if my connection speeds could 
> improve with OT/PPP. I tried finding it in the installer CD via custom 
> installs, but cannot.
> Any ideas? Could it be sent to me?
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 
> ------------------------------

I know the answer to this one 'cause I just went through this myself.

"Remote Access" is the new name of the PPP Control Panel.

------------------------------------------------------------ Dan White -
"Sometimes  I  think  the  surest  sign  that  intelligent  life exists
 elsewhere  in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
                                                  Calvin (Bill Waterson)

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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 09:59:56 +0100
From: iain antony macleod <i.macleod@agora.stm.it>
Subject: One scanner driver

Anyone know where I can download an Apple OneScanner 600/27 driver. A
friend of mine has lost her's, and can't find the original files, as I have
been told one needs a password to access them.
My friend is with a dead Scanner, as she upgraded to a new OS after a copy
on a Jazz drive (without copying Sytem extension, etc.)
Suggestion for an URL where to d/l?

Please answer at my personal e-mail

i.macleod@agora.stm.it

or Giovanna's
giober.net@iol.it

http://www.agora.stm.it/I.Macleod

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:58:37 -0500
From: "Douglas W. St.Clair" <dwstclair@tellink.net>
Subject: Possible Outlook Problem for Macintoshes

I was working where there were about 90 Macs at one location. The systems
were set up with applications on the local hard drive and all data on a
server. All backups were done of data on the servers. No backups were done
on local Macintosh systems.

The contractor who installed Outlook hired a bunch of PC guys. They went to
each Macintosh and did the following:

1. Click on the server folder you want the users personal folder installed on.
2. Open the Outlook Setup Program.
3. Save the personal folder assuming it would go the location you clicked
on in step one. But it didn't it was installed in the Outlook folder where
the setup program was located.

The result was that the user's mail was being stored on the local drive and
the backup was not saving it.
END
**************************************************

               Douglas W. St.Clair

(in New Hampshire)              (in Massachusetts)
Tir Na Nog                       30 George St.
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Wilton. NH 03086-5022
PH: 603-654-9321                 PH: 617-233-3387 or
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EMAIL: dwstclair@tellink.net

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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:21:22 -0500
From: darrell Wood <woodword@idt.net>
Subject: Sluggish Netscape 4.5 and Mac OS 8.5.1

Tom.

Try disabling java in your preferances for Communicator 4.5. Leave 
javascript checked.

good luck
darrell Wood
woodword@idt.net

http://www.geocities.com/soho/lofts/7323
==============================

you had posted....

>>I recently installed both Netscape Communicator 4.5 and Mac OS 8.5.1 on my
>>PowerMac 8500/150 and observed the following problem.  I would appreciate
>>hearing about any diagnoses, solutions, or workarounds.
>>
>>Whenever Netscape is accessing a web page, everything else freezes for 5-25
>>seconds at a time.  It won't respond to mouse clicks in Netscape, the
>>Finder, or anything else.  Occasionally I see activity on the modem, at
>>which time it responds to the most recent mouse click before freezing
>>again.  Web pages are loaded in small bursts separated by long pauses, even
>>from sites and at times of day that are normally quite fast.
>>
>>A friend reports the same behavior, also with 8.5.1 and 4.5.

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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:00:48 -0500
From: "Douglas W. St.Clair" <dwstclair@tellink.net>
Subject: Virex

I found VIREX also very successul in catching the Autostart Worms. At the
time I was working as a contractor for a large publisher. We elected to
install Dr. Solomon's administrator software so that we could administer
the systems centrally. There were about 90 Macs at this location. However,
the most recent update of VIREX broke the central adminstration features.
This version would have required going to each system and reinstalling the
software locally. Very Bad Plannning on their part. IMHO. I was examining
the use of Apple's Network Adminstrator to do all the central
administration when my contract ended.

At the same time another "problem" rasied its ugly head. The systems were
set up with applications on the local hard drive and all data on a server.
The locally installed antivirus software wasn't set up to search the
servers. This makes sense because the directories on the servers were
shared and having every Mac search all the common files was not practical.
The servers woudn't do the job either. The problem is the NT and NetWare
virus software has not been trained to find Macintosh Virus problems only
MS DOS, WINDOZE viruses.
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