CURRENT MEETING REPORT


Reported by Joyce K. Reynolds, ISI

Minutes of the User Services Working Group (USV)


A "thank-you very much" to Ryan Moats of the InterNIC who provided 
me with his notes of the USWG session.  They were invaluable in 
compiling these minutes.


Discussions/Reports

o  A report on IETF User Services Area activities

There are eight working groups active, RUN has closed down and 
their work is out as FYI 28.  ISN is working to update FYI 22.  ISN 
related comments can be send to jodi@hawaii.edu and 
sellers@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov.


o  Reports on related global liaison group activities and international 
conferences

IESG and USV Area status and updates at the RIPE meeting plenary 
were provided by Joyce.

Tel-Ed Conference, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida

ISN held an interim meeting at this conference, chaired by Jennifer 
Sellers.  Joyce attended the meeting to into other education on-line 
magazines and National Educational Conference (NEC) for 96 is in 
May.  Are Educators interested in ERIC via the Internet?  This job 
might be easier because there are national education organizations 
for disseminating information (e.g., in Germany, schule.de).  The 
Asian IAPs will be holding the Apricot Conference, January 18-24, 
1996 in Singapore.  This may be a place to obtain additional input.


o  Info Scout Update-Susan Calcari

The IS side of the InterNIC was shutdown at General Atomics.  
Susan and her job are now located at UW-Madison.  She has been 
hiring personnel, including

Tom Newell as NIC liaison.  She and has also hired a librarian.  
Send mail to scout@internic.net for the Scout Report.  The Scout 
Toolkit is now located at:

http://www.internic.net/scout

It will be announced after this IETF meeting.


o  InterNIC Report-Tom Newell/NIC Liaison (tomn@internic.net or 
liaison@internic.net)

There have been many conferences attended in the last few months 
(ACM-SIG, CNI, EDUCOM, etc.) where InterNIC outreach has been 
done.  The primary finding is that the ISP's think that the InterNIC 
should be doing more for them.  The most specific or common answer 
was, "We don't know, but the InterNIC should do something and let 
the community critique it."

Tom mentioned that the InterNIC's original focus was service to the 
R&D community.  The InterNIC is looking into how to expand the 
focus to a broader community.  Specifically the commercial folks.

A new project has been undertaken.  The NSFnet newsletter will be 
resurrected as the InterNIC News.  It will be published on a monthly 
basis, stored in a variety of electronic formats, etc.  It will have the 
same focus as the newsletter had before, but with a broader 
audience.  The two places where the InterNIC previously helped 
was small colleges and local libraries.  The proposed format 
includes: key interviews, technical topics, Newbie topics, and 
InterNIC information.

A second project in development at the InterNIC is the "Fifteen 
Minute Series".  These would be packages that take 15 minutes to 
present to folks from "what is the Internet" to "what tools are 
available", etc.  This includes the concept that the InterNIC can act 
as the "glue" or "clearinghouse" of internetworking information.  
Another project that might be performed by the InterNIC is hosting 
regional conferences with a focus on either the ISPs or discussing 
registration and information aspects of the InterNIC.

The mailing list of nic-support@internic.net for posting your 
thoughts and comments.


o  Discussion/Participation of USWG projects and USV-Web Updates

http://rs.internic.net/usv-web.html

Janet Max reported that the ds link to 
http://rs.internic.net/usv-web.html seems to be broken.  
There is a gopher link broken in one of the ds machines (i.e., the 
fyi-index.html does not come up).  The InterNIC folks will check 
these out and report back to Joyce on the status.

Joyce and Tom will take the action to look at the USV-Web pages 
and update them.  Also, it was suggested that the USV-Web page 
should be more visible then where it is currently nested, and that 
USV Area Internet-Drafts should also be listed on the web, along 
with the FYI RFC finished products.

The discussion then turned to the status of the NIC Locator project.

This was a discussion of the problem of the ISPs sending information 
to the InterNIC to be included in the NIC-Locator database.  The 
problem is how appropriate is it to list "commercial" entries.  A 
question was raised on how often do the NIC-Locator pages get hit?  
It is thought to be not very often.  Also, there is already a "list.com", 
which pretty much provides the information that the NIC-Locator 
originally provided.  It was decided that the NIC-Locator will be 
killed off.


o  The HTMLing of FYI RFCs

Janet Max, who did all the work in HTMLing FYI RFCs for the 
USWG and Internet community has agreed to continue to do this, and 
also provide support at least for the next year or so.  (YEAH! - 
thanks JLM!)

Jon Postel has constructed up web pages, which access the HTML FYI 
RFCs, among other items:

RFC-Editor page:  http://www.isi.edu/rfc-editor
IANA page:  http://www.isi.edu/iana


o  Butterfly Glossary from Italy

This is located at 
http://www.pi.cnr.it/ODI/Glossario/glhpage.html 

A.  Blasco Bonito (GARR-Italy) wants feedback from USWGers on 
how they like it.


o  UserGlos Working Group Update

Gary Malkin provided a brief presentation regarding the UserGlos 
Working Group status.  It has been canceled at this IETF because he 
has been ill, has not had enough time to get ready for the session, 
and there has been no almost no activity or input by working group 
members.  However, new entries are being filled in and an I-D will 
be put out in a month to finish at the next IETF in March in Los 
Angeles.


o  Any other business

AIDAT (African Internet Development Action Team) is a volunteer 
organization mainly based in South Africa working to bring the 
Internet to Africa.  The question that comes up is that there is a 
need/niche for some documentation (FYI RFC?) aimed at developing 
countries for an organization (country/university/etc.) to get access 
to the Internet.  This could be something for the USWG to work on as 
a project.

On another topic, request for information on setting up or running a 
regional or country NIC would be useful.  After a round of discussion, 
it was decided that this will not be followed up because information 
on dealing with governments is not what the USWG or the IETF 
should get into.