CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_ Reported by Erik Huizer/SURFnet bv Minutes of the Applications Area Directorate (APPLES) Thanks to Keith Moore for his contribution to the minutes. The meeting was chaired by John Klensin, Erik Huizer and Joyce Reynolds. The goal of the meeting was to present an overview of the applications work that is going on in the Applications Area and User Services Area, possibly identify areas of common interest/overlap and discuss possible coordination. The various working group chairs gave a very brief description of their applications-related working group and the current issues. o Integrated Directory Services (IDS) - User Services Area - non-technical documentation for directory services users - X.500 catalogs - WHOIS++ catalogs - gateways between X.500/WHOIS++ - legal issues with running directory services o Integration of Internet Information Resources (IIIR) - User Services Area - vision of the future - quality of service issues - standardizing types for applications/data - documenting existing protocols like WWW, Gopher and WAIS o Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) - Applications Area - manipulate remote mailbox - access sequences of messages (news, FTP archives, etc.) - selectively access MIME body parts o Internet Anonymous FTP Archives (IAFA) - User Services Area - help anonymous FTP administrators organize FTP sites - FTP site administrators guide (FYI) - FTP guide for users (FYI) - set of data templates to catalog FTPable information o Networked Information Retrieval (NIR) - User Services Area - status report on NIR tools/groups o OSI Directory Services (OSIDS) - Applications Area - deployment of X.500-based directory services on the Internet - LDAP - lightweight directory access protocol - CLDAP - connectionless lightweight directory access protocol - representing bibliographic/text information o TELNET (TELNET) - Applications Area - environment option - authentication o TELNET TN3270 Enhancements (TN3270E) - Applications Area - document TN3270 (Informational RFC) - extensions: LUnames/printer data streams - enhanced TN3270: full function 3270 over TCP o Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) - User Services Area - URLs - URNs - citations/characteristics (whatever URCs are) - naming/address resolution for objects (possibly DNS) o WHOIS and Network Information Lookup Service (WNILS) - User Services Area - WHOIS network information and lookup service - development of WHOIS++ o X.400 Operations (X400OPS) - Applications Area - closing down - proposes new working group: Commercial X.400 Internet Interconnection (CXII) * how do commercial providers of X.400 connect to Internet mail? +go-mhs +RFC 1327 gateway operations * must get collaboration from X.400 service providers After these presentations the discussion went on to define sub-areas of related working groups. A discussion ensued that concentrated on the topic of white pages and directory services. Erik Huizer proposed a strawman model of how efforts can be coordinated in this sub-area. The strawman proposes two things: 1. Coordination of WHOIS++ and X.500 working groups working on specific well defined issues, that cover the ``common ground'' between these two otherwise competing proposals. 2. The establishment of a directorate for directory service issues that would act as an advisory board to the area directors, and would help to coordinate the related working groups. Discussion o It was perceived that coordination of WHOIS++ and X.500 efforts in the white pages area is useful. However, the ultimate goal of this is not to come up with the one protocol to solve the directory problem. Rather, the goal should be to pool expertise to solve common problems, thus increasing the level of interworking and the perceived functionality for the end-users. It was pointed out that this effort should not preclude other directory services efforts from working within the Applications Area and/or User Services Area. This will be discussed further in the OSIDS and WNILS Working Groups. o The establishment of a separate directorate for directory services in the Applications Area was generally not perceived as a good idea. Fear was expressed that this tended to solve the problems for the directory service-related working groups, but would not improve communication with those working groups that work on protocols that make use of the directory. Suggestions were made for enlargement of the Applications Area Directorate, at least with the working group chairs, and possibly with support of some pools of experts for some fields of interest. The Area Directors will write another strawman proposal for this specific coordination issue, and it will be discussed on the list: apples@surfnet.nl. To subscribe to the list send a request to: apples-request@surfnet.nl. After consensus is reached, the proposal will be submitted to the IESG and IAB for approval. Attendees Steve Alexander stevea@lachman.com Harald Alvestrand Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no Glen Cairns cairns@mprgate.mpr.ca James Conklin jbc@bitnic.educom.edu Ann Cooper cooper@isi.edu Alan Emtage bajan@bunyip.com Urs Eppenberger eppenberger@switch.ch Erik Fair fair@apple.com Sallie Fellows sallie@ed.unh.edu Jill Foster Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk Ned Freed ned@innosoft.com Kevin Gamiel kgamiel@cnidr.org Tony Genovese genovese@es.net Arlene Getchell getchell@es.net Shawn Gillam shawn@timonware.com Mei-Jean Goh goh@mpr.ca Judith Grass grass@cnri.reston.va.us Terry Gray gray@cac.washington.edu Phillip Gross pgross@ans.net Martyne Hallgren martyne@mitchell.cit.cornell.edu Deborah Hamilton debbieh@internic.net Alf Hansen Alf.Hansen@uninett.no Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@rc.tudelft.nl Marco Hernandez marco@cren.net Russ Hobby rdhobby@ucdavis.edu Tim Howes tim@umich.edu Richard Huber rvh@ds.internic.net Erik Huizer Erik.Huizer@SURFnet.nl Marko Kaittola Marko.Kaittola@funet.fi Neil Katin katin@eng.sun.com Steve Kille S.Kille@isode.com Byonghak Kim bhkim@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr John Klensin Klensin@infoods.unu.edu Jim Knowles jknowles@binky.arc.nasa.gov Mark Kosters markk@internic.net John Kunze jak@violet.berkeley.edu Barry Leiner leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov Ben Levy seven@ftp.com Clifford Lynch calur@uccmvsa.ucop.edu Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp April Marine april@atlas.arc.nasa.gov Larry Masinter masinter@parc.xerox.com Mitra mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu Robert Moskowitz 3858921@mcimail.com John Myers jgm+@cmu.edu Chris Newman chrisn+@cmu.edu Masataka Ohta mohta@cc.titech.ac.jp Lars-Gunnar Olsson Lars-Gunnar.Olsson@data.slu.se Scott Paisley paisley@central.bldrdoc.gov Rakesh Patel rapatel@pilot.njin.net Marsha Perrott perrott@prep.net Karen Petraska-Veum karen.veum@gsfc.nasa.gov Cecilia Preston cpreston@info.berkeley.edu Kenneth Rossen kenr@shl.com Srinivas Sataluri sri@internic.net Rickard Schoultz schoultz@sunet.se Henry Sinnreich hsinnreich@mcimail.com Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu Karen Sollins sollins@lcs.mit.edu Simon Spero ses@unc.edu Anthony Valle valle@huntsville.sparta.com John Veizades veizades@ftp.com Chris Weider clw@merit.edu Jackie Wilson Jackie.Wilson@msfc.nasa.gov Russ Wright wright@lbl.gov