L2TPEXT Minutes Minutes courtesy of Ross Wheeler. 13:05 Charter Revision Mark's presentation Emphasized 2661 related documents in the near term Asking for feedback Questions/Comments: None - Mark will pass it on the area directors Tom: asked how many read the new charter (not many) Mark: Will ask for last call for the charter on list ------------------------------------------------------------------ 13:10 PWOT || PWE3 Danny McPherson Presentation Questions/Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------ IPSRA Mark Mentioned that L2TP is in the requirements document ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nishit Vasavada - nishit@ambernetworks.com Frame Relay Service Type for L2TP draft-vasavada-l2tpext-fr-svctype-00.txt 10 minutes Presentation Questions/Comments: Mark - less overloading AVPs. Sub address types are used with ISDN so maybe we should use another AVP. Nishit - agreed. Mark - no way to insure data integrity - why it isn't turning on the UDP checksum. You can say MUST. Discusses PPP, UDP with L2TP and use of checksums. L2TP specific checksum mentioned may be a requirement of the PWOT. Andrew Malis - MUST UDP checksum - issues with the header MTU issues? Fragmentation and reassembly - go to the FRF.5 with regards functionality (for ATM but still applicable). T1.618 should be changed ITU Q.922 Q.923. Kevin - CIR mentioned? Nishit - next version. With MPLS why? Mark - something for PWOT. ------------------------------------------------------------------ David Black - Black_David@emc.com, Danny McPherson - danny@ambernetworks.com L2TP Differentiated Services Extension draft-ietf-l2tpext-ds-03.txt 20 minutes Danny Presentation Mentioned that Wei Luo did the update Questions/Comments: Q: PPP - multiple flows within a PPP session? Danny: out of scope David: problem with L2TP, sequence numbers, and flow based diffserv - be careful Mark: do not turn on sequence numbers in this case Mark: classification of flows and mapping - one method is pure mapping and doesn't use this. Text to talk about that case, another case, is this common knowledge? Danny: welcome to the proposal Mark: do you reflect? Thomas: Possible to modify the existing PHBID? Is there a message to use? Mark: SLI or create a new message type. Mark: Why? Thomas: Won't know until after authentication Mark: should consider it. None David Black Presentation on Diffserv Questions/Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Gilles Bourdon (gilles.bourdon@rd.francetelecom.fr) L2TP Multicast Extension draft-bourdon-l2tpmulticast-00.txt 10 minutes Gilles Presentation Questions/Comments: Mark: Experimental draft. If it's adopted then we could move standards track. Danny: No patents? G: No. Thomas: How many people in a group? G: Not setup yet. 5000 users for one LAC. Dave Allen: source question - do I receive a copy as a source? G: yes, designed just for downstream data Mark: security issues: inject an MSI? ------------------------------------------------------------------ L2TP Mib Evan Caves Presentation Doesn't support header compression, alt. payloads. Questions/Comments: Glen: Go ahead and become an RFC. Changing the structure of the existing MIB, change it to two new ones. ------------------------------------------------------------------ W. Mark Townsley - townsley@cisco.com L2TPEXT Milestones update and review L2TPEXT Charter Revision Remaining time