Establishing a Forum for Operational Issues BOF (OPERA)

Reported by Erik Huizer/SURFnet

The BOF was intended to answer the following three questions:


  1. For which applications and services is there a need for
     international operation and coordination?

     The discussion was restricted to services above the network layer
     (i.e., we assume that ping works).  A list of services that people
     thought were in need of international coordination and an
     operational platform was compiled.  The individual items on the
     list were not discussed.  The intention was to get insight in the
     potential upcoming operational issues.

       o CIDR deployment
       o Information services
       o DNS
       o Route servers
       o Distributed NICs
       o URN resolution services
       o End-to-end services
       o Authentication services
       o Firewall operation
       o Channel/tunnel coordination
       o Directory services
       o E-mail
       o Archiving services
       o Mirroring services
       o Multi-lingual services
       o Trouble ticket hand-off
       o Policy determination
       o CERT
       o Quality of service/service level agreements
       o Access to services through limited protocols (e.g., e-mail
         access only)


  2. Which international bodies exist that deal with operations, and
     that could serve as a home to these application services
     operations?

     The following non-exclusive list was identified:

       o IETF-OPS
       o IEPG
       o RIPE
       o EEPPG
       o APnic
       o APccirn-APepg
       o FIRST/CERT
       o InterNIC
       o MHS-Managers
       o Bind/Namedroppers

     Geoff Houston as chair of the IEPG then presented the charter of
     the IEPG that had recently been revised.  This charter will be
     published as an Informational RFC. In summary:  the IEPG is open to
     anyone who wants to discuss operational issues related to the
     Internet.  Anything will be discussed provided there is a
     constituency.  To subscribe to the IEPG mailing list send mail to
     iepg-request@aarnet.edu.au.

     Regional presentations from EEPG, APepg and the North American
     equivalent followed.

  3. Is there enough interest to find a home for operational issues for
     applications and services?

     The consensus was that there is a need (see the list under question
     one).  Consensus was also reached that the IEPG, with its current
     charter, seemed like a very suitable and independent home for such
     issues.

     The recommendation from this BOF is that the IEPG should serve as
     the platform for Internet operators to discuss operational issues
     of all kinds, and to coordinate services.  The IETF is the platform
     where operational requirements and standards are discussed and
     defined.  If the IEPG runs into issues that require standards
     related activities (e.g., changes in standards, new standards,
     requirements documents, etc.), these will be referred to the IETF.
     Although it is acknowledged that the borderline between the IETF
     and IEPG will not always be this sharp, it is recommended that this
     distinction be followed as close as possible.  Input from IEPG to
     IETF (and vice versa) is of course essential for both bodies.



IEPG Charter

The Internet Engineering and Planning Group (IEPG) is a group
principally comprised of Internet service operators.

The common objective of the group is to promote a technically
coordinated operational environment of the global Internet.

The activities of the IEPG will be within the following areas:


   o To facilitate the operations and management of global Internet
     services,

   o To promote the introduction of new Internet services within the
     global Internet, and

   o Liaison with related Internet operations groups and liaison with
     technical development groups.


Explicitly the IEPG is not a group which will conduct activities of a
technical developmental nature.

Membership of the IEPG shall be open.  Any individual may subscribe to
the IEPG mailing list, and all meeting announcements, meeting agendas,
meetings and meeting reports shall be made openly available.

The IEPG will maintain an archive of material available using World Wide
Web (WWW) access tools.  The location of this WWW archive, and this
charter, will be disseminated to the Internet community through an
Informational RFC.


Attendees

Claudio Allocchio        Claudio.Allocchio@elettra.trieste.it
Tony Bates               tony@ripe.net
Jon Boone                boone@psc.edu
Erik-Jan Bos             erik-jan.bos@surfnet.nl
Luc Boulianne            lucb@bunyip.com
Scott Bradner            sob@harvard.edu
Robert Brenner           Robert.W.Brenner@gte.sprint.com
J. Nevil Brownlee        nevil@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz
Joesph Burrescia         burrescia@es.net
Randy Bush               randy@psg.com
C. Allan Cargille        allan.cargille@cs.wisc.edu
John Carlson             johnc@cac.washington.edu
Henry Clark              henryc@oar.net
Michael Collins          collins@es.net
Steve Corbato            corbato@nwnet.net
John Curran              jcurran@nic.near.net
Shane Davis              shane@delphi.com
Farokh Deboo             fjd@synoptics.com
Sean Doran               smd@use.net
Ian Duncan               id@cc.mcgill.ca
Havard Eidnes            havard.eidnes@runit.sintef.no
Urs Eppenberger          eppenberger@switch.ch
Roger Fajman             raf@cu.nih.gov
Steve Feldman            feldman@mfsdatanet.com
Dennis Ferguson          dennis@ans.net
Jill Foster              Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk
Tony Genovese            genovese@es.net
Elise Gerich             epg@merit.edu
Arlene Getchell          getchell@es.net
Deborah Hamilton         debbieh@internic.net
Eugene Hastings          hastings@psc.edu
Alisa Hata               hata@cac.washington.edu
Denise Heagerty          denise@dxcoms.cern.ch
Roland Hedberg           Roland.Hedberg@umdac.umu.se
John Houlker             j.houlker@waikato.ac.nz
Tim Howes                tim@umich.edu
Richard Huber            rvh@ds.internic.net
Erik Huizer              Erik.Huizer@SURFnet.nl
Jinho Hur                jhhur@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr
Geoff Huston             g.huston@aarnet.edu.au
Barbara Jennings         bjjenni@sandia.gov
Marko Kaittola           Marko.Kaittola@dante.org.uk
Sean Kennedy             liam@nic.near.net
John Klensin             Klensin@infoods.unu.edu
Jim Knowles              jknowles@binky.arc.nasa.gov
Richard Kooijman         r.kooijman@et.tudelft.nl
So Young Lee             sylee@hen.nca.go.kr
Frank Liu                fcliu@pacbell.com
Glenn Mansfield          glenn@aic.co.jp
J. Scott Marcus          smarcus@bbn.com
Jun Matsukata            jm@eng.isas.ac.jp
Linda Millington         l.millington@noc.ulcc.ac.uk
Keith Mitchell           keith@pipex.net
Pushpendra Mohta         pushp@cerf.net
Kim Morla                kmorla@pucp.edu.pe
Jun Murai                jun@wide.ad.jp
Phil Nesser              pjnesser@rocket.com
Masataka Ohta            mohta@cc.titech.ac.jp
Andrew Partan            asp@uunet.uu.net
Marsha Perrott           perrott@prep.net
George Phillips          phillips@cs.ubc.ca
Mark Prior               mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au
Francois Robitaille      francois.robitaille@crim.ca
Jim Romaguera            romaguera@netconsult.ch
Srinivas Sataluri        sri@internic.net
Tim Seaver               tas@concert.net
Suzanne Smith            smith@es.net
David Staudt             dstaudt@nsf.gov
Barbara Sterling         bjs@mcdata.com
Bernhard Stockman        boss@ebone.net
Tim Streater             t.c.streater@dante.org.uk
Marten Terpstra          marten@ripe.net
Claudio Topolcic         topolcic@bbn.com
Willem van der Scheun    scheun@sara.nl
Maria Vistoli            vistoli@infn.it
Ruediger Volk            rv@informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Jessica Yu               jyy@merit.edu
Chin Yuan                cxyuan@pacbell.com