CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Erik Huizer/SURFnet bv
Minutes of the Applications Area Directorate (APPLES)
Thanks to Keith Moore for his contribution to the minutes.
The meeting was chaired by John Klensin, Erik Huizer and Joyce Reynolds.
The goal of the meeting was to present an overview of the applications
work that is going on in the Applications Area and User Services Area,
possibly identify areas of common interest/overlap and discuss possible
coordination.
The various working group chairs gave a very brief description of their
applications-related working group and the current issues.
o Integrated Directory Services (IDS) - User Services Area
- non-technical documentation for directory services users
- X.500 catalogs
- WHOIS++ catalogs
- gateways between X.500/WHOIS++
- legal issues with running directory services
o Integration of Internet Information Resources (IIIR) - User
Services Area
- vision of the future
- quality of service issues
- standardizing types for applications/data
- documenting existing protocols like WWW, Gopher and WAIS
o Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) - Applications Area
- manipulate remote mailbox
- access sequences of messages (news, FTP archives, etc.)
- selectively access MIME body parts
o Internet Anonymous FTP Archives (IAFA) - User Services Area
- help anonymous FTP administrators organize FTP sites
- FTP site administrators guide (FYI)
- FTP guide for users (FYI)
- set of data templates to catalog FTPable information
o Networked Information Retrieval (NIR) - User Services Area
- status report on NIR tools/groups
o OSI Directory Services (OSIDS) - Applications Area
- deployment of X.500-based directory services on the Internet
- LDAP - lightweight directory access protocol
- CLDAP - connectionless lightweight directory access protocol
- representing bibliographic/text information
o TELNET (TELNET) - Applications Area
- environment option
- authentication
o TELNET TN3270 Enhancements (TN3270E) - Applications Area
- document TN3270 (Informational RFC)
- extensions: LUnames/printer data streams
- enhanced TN3270: full function 3270 over TCP
o Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) - User Services Area
- URLs
- URNs
- citations/characteristics (whatever URCs are)
- naming/address resolution for objects (possibly DNS)
o WHOIS and Network Information Lookup Service (WNILS) - User
Services Area
- WHOIS network information and lookup service
- development of WHOIS++
o X.400 Operations (X400OPS) - Applications Area
- closing down
- proposes new working group: Commercial X.400 Internet
Interconnection (CXII)
* how do commercial providers of X.400 connect to Internet
mail?
+go-mhs
+RFC 1327 gateway operations
* must get collaboration from X.400 service providers
After these presentations the discussion went on to define sub-areas of
related working groups. A discussion ensued that concentrated on the
topic of white pages and directory services. Erik Huizer proposed a
strawman model of how efforts can be coordinated in this sub-area. The
strawman proposes two things:
1. Coordination of WHOIS++ and X.500 working groups working on
specific well defined issues, that cover the ``common ground''
between these two otherwise competing proposals.
2. The establishment of a directorate for directory service issues
that would act as an advisory board to the area directors, and
would help to coordinate the related working groups.
Discussion
o It was perceived that coordination of WHOIS++ and X.500 efforts in
the white pages area is useful. However, the ultimate goal of this
is not to come up with the one protocol to solve the directory
problem. Rather, the goal should be to pool expertise to solve
common problems, thus increasing the level of interworking and the
perceived functionality for the end-users.
It was pointed out that this effort should not preclude other
directory services efforts from working within the Applications
Area and/or User Services Area.
This will be discussed further in the OSIDS and WNILS Working
Groups.
o The establishment of a separate directorate for directory services
in the Applications Area was generally not perceived as a good
idea. Fear was expressed that this tended to solve the problems
for the directory service-related working groups, but would not
improve communication with those working groups that work on
protocols that make use of the directory. Suggestions were made
for enlargement of the Applications Area Directorate, at least with
the working group chairs, and possibly with support of some pools
of experts for some fields of interest.
The Area Directors will write another strawman proposal for this
specific coordination issue, and it will be discussed on the list:
apples@surfnet.nl. To subscribe to the list send a request to:
apples-request@surfnet.nl.
After consensus is reached, the proposal will be submitted to the
IESG and IAB for approval.
Attendees
Steve Alexander stevea@lachman.com
Harald Alvestrand Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no
Glen Cairns cairns@mprgate.mpr.ca
James Conklin jbc@bitnic.educom.edu
Ann Cooper cooper@isi.edu
Alan Emtage bajan@bunyip.com
Urs Eppenberger eppenberger@switch.ch
Erik Fair fair@apple.com
Sallie Fellows sallie@ed.unh.edu
Jill Foster Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk
Ned Freed ned@innosoft.com
Kevin Gamiel kgamiel@cnidr.org
Tony Genovese genovese@es.net
Arlene Getchell getchell@es.net
Shawn Gillam shawn@timonware.com
Mei-Jean Goh goh@mpr.ca
Judith Grass grass@cnri.reston.va.us
Terry Gray gray@cac.washington.edu
Phillip Gross pgross@ans.net
Martyne Hallgren martyne@mitchell.cit.cornell.edu
Deborah Hamilton debbieh@internic.net
Alf Hansen Alf.Hansen@uninett.no
Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@rc.tudelft.nl
Marco Hernandez marco@cren.net
Russ Hobby rdhobby@ucdavis.edu
Tim Howes tim@umich.edu
Richard Huber rvh@ds.internic.net
Erik Huizer Erik.Huizer@SURFnet.nl
Marko Kaittola Marko.Kaittola@funet.fi
Neil Katin katin@eng.sun.com
Steve Kille S.Kille@isode.com
Byonghak Kim bhkim@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr
John Klensin Klensin@infoods.unu.edu
Jim Knowles jknowles@binky.arc.nasa.gov
Mark Kosters markk@internic.net
John Kunze jak@violet.berkeley.edu
Barry Leiner leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov
Ben Levy seven@ftp.com
Clifford Lynch calur@uccmvsa.ucop.edu
Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp
April Marine april@atlas.arc.nasa.gov
Larry Masinter masinter@parc.xerox.com
Mitra mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us
Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu
Robert Moskowitz 3858921@mcimail.com
John Myers jgm+@cmu.edu
Chris Newman chrisn+@cmu.edu
Masataka Ohta mohta@cc.titech.ac.jp
Lars-Gunnar Olsson Lars-Gunnar.Olsson@data.slu.se
Scott Paisley paisley@central.bldrdoc.gov
Rakesh Patel rapatel@pilot.njin.net
Marsha Perrott perrott@prep.net
Karen Petraska-Veum karen.veum@gsfc.nasa.gov
Cecilia Preston cpreston@info.berkeley.edu
Kenneth Rossen kenr@shl.com
Srinivas Sataluri sri@internic.net
Rickard Schoultz schoultz@sunet.se
Henry Sinnreich hsinnreich@mcimail.com
Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu
Karen Sollins sollins@lcs.mit.edu
Simon Spero ses@unc.edu
Anthony Valle valle@huntsville.sparta.com
John Veizades veizades@ftp.com
Chris Weider clw@merit.edu
Jackie Wilson Jackie.Wilson@msfc.nasa.gov
Russ Wright wright@lbl.gov