CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Steve Kille/ISODE
Minutes of the SNMP Application Management BOF (SAM)
The key result of the SAM BOF was to propose the establishment of a new
IETF working group, Mail and Directory Management (MADMAN).
Background
The BOF was called by Steve Kille, for the following reasons:
o A belief that this area was of general interest, and merited an
activity of IETF standardisation.
o A specification produced by Steve Kille, Dave Partain, Thomas
Lenggenhager, and Wengyik Yeong, was submitted as input to the
meeting and had been implemented by the ISODE Consortium.
o Knowledge that at least three other firms had implemented
equivalent functionality.
The goals of the BOF were to determine if there was sufficient interest
to establish a working group on this topic and to produce IETF
specifications.
Related Activity
This activity cuts across many of the IETF areas. The following Working
Groups were identified as being relevant.
o X.400 Operations
o IFIP 6.5 on Email Management
o Host Resources MIB
o DNS MIB
Subsequent to the meeting, Steve Kille obtained a copy of the CDC MIB,
which can be made available to anyone interested.
Discussion
Attendees described their positions and reasons for attending. There
was a clear and strong view that this area was important, and should be
established as a new working group, independent of those listed above.
There was overlap with the DNSMIB, but the level of detail precluded
extending it to the broader goals discussed here. The Email Management
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Working Group was working with a similar area, but had much broader and
longer term goals. Specific points agreed on direction:
o That this area was of substantialinterest.
o The MIB(s) should be small and focussed.
o Time scales should be as short as possible, as there was a clear
operational need. All documents should be finalised by July 1993.
o MIBs should support both OSI and TCP/IP applications.
o Care should be taken to avoid OSI terminology, as this may alienate
parts of the IETF community that are OSI-hostile.
o The SAM proposal should be used as a basis, but be split into three
documents.
o The Working Group should be in the Applications Area.
It as agreed that the following documents were targets, based on the SAM
proposal. Editor in brackets:
o ``NetworkServices MonitoringMIB'' (Ned Freed)
o ``MailMonitoring MIB''(Ned Freed)
o ``DirectoryMonitoring MIB''(Steve Kille)
There were two detailed technical discussions worth reporting. Ned
noted that there needed to be a more general ``channel''model, as the
per-MTA monitoring would be difficult for some MTAs to support. He
proposed a number of detailed changes, and would handle adding these.
The issue of message store was considerd. Steve Kille suggested that
this would be a necessary extension to the basicwork to be handled by
this Group. Some concern was expressed about privacy issues. Marshall
Rose said that this should not prevent the MIB from being specified.
Action Items
Steve Kille Write Minutes.
Update document 3.
Draft Charter.
Ned Freed Update documents 1 and 2.
Establish Mailing List and Archive.
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CD/DP/EH Create MADMAN Working Group.
Attendees
Harald Alvestrand Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
David Arneson arneson@ctron.com
J. Nevil Brownlee nevil@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz
Theodore Brunner tob@thumper.bellcore.com
Stephen Bush sfb@ncoast.org
Cathy Cunningham cmc@microcom.com
Cynthia Della Torre cindy@gateway.mitre.org
Hans Eriksson hans@sics.se
Daniel Fauvarque dfauvarq@france.sun.com
Ned Freed ned@innosoft.com
Ella Gardner epg@gateway.mitre.org
Michel Guittet guittet1@applelink.apple.com
John Hawthorne johnh@tigger.rl.af.mil
Gerd Holzhauer holzhauer1@applelink.apple.com
Marko Kaittola Marko.Kaittola@funet.fi
Steve Kille S.Kille@isode.com
Sylvain Langlois Sylvain.Langlois@exp.edf.fr
Edward Levinson levinson@pica.army.mil
Rina Nathaniel rina!rnd!rndi@uunet.uu.net
Rakesh Patel patel@noc.rutgers.edu
Michael Patton map@bbn.com
David Perkins dperkins@synoptics.com
Karen Petraska-Veum karen@sled.gsfc.nasa.gov
David Piscitello dave@mail.bellcore.com
Kary Robertson kr@concord.com
Marshall Rose mrose@dbc.mtview.ca.us
Jon Saperia saperia@lkg.dec.com
Michael Sapich sapich@conware.de
Dallas Scott scott@fluky.mitre.org
Chris Shaw cshaw@banyan.com
Timon Sloane timon@timon.com
Einar Stefferud stef@nma.com
Panos-Gavriil Tsigaridas Tsigaridas@fokus.berlin.gmd.dbp.de
Cathy Wittbrodt cjw@barrnet.net
Honda Wu honda@nat.com
Peter Yee yee@atlas.arc.nasa.gov
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